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Today i took some shots at night and i confirm. The result is a disaster now in Android 10

doublem101
Star III
I've been reading all the posts about the bad photo quality on Android 10 but honestly i didn't had the chance to test it in detail before.
However today, i had a spare time and it only took a couple minutes to see what everyone are talking about.
I already had taken some indoor photos and i noticed the high noise in darker areas but i went outside and i couldn't believe on what i was looking at. Slightly blured photos (like a shaken photo) and no detail at all, it looked like a watercolour painting. On some photos, darker areas were pinkish, something that i complained before in Pro mode on long exposures but never noticed it in any other mode.
However, i don't know if it's related or not but the few Gcam versions that works, aren't much better neither. Still a little better than stock app but really really worse than before. I'm not sure if they aren't already optimized or somehow related with the stock app bad quality. I don't know how Gcam works but what if the main issue isn't the stock APP itself but something behind it that makes Gcam works so bad also?
Sorry Asus, but i can't accept this quality from €500 device. One of the things that made me buy this phone was his night photo quality and now it takes worse photos than my old device?
I know you are looking at the problem already but i become frightened when i read that the differences you found aren't considerable. They are. If you didn't tested yet at night, outside, please do it. Theres were i found the major differences, not indoor.
I don't a have photo took in Android 9 under the same circunstances in this same places but please look at this photo. This isn't acceptable at all.
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CH_ASUS
Community Legend II
Indoor under direct sunlight. Hand held, rested against the table. Focus on the right figurine's head.
HDR++ mode (processing wheel appeared) , all shots.

P-189
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P-191
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Q (I accidentaly set the ratio to 1:1 for the Q shot, but as aspect ratios are just clean auto crops, it shouldnt have affected the result).
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CH_ASUS
Community Legend II

off2fly115

Hi!

Here are some of my personal pictures and videos shot with *SNAPCHAT* on my Zenfone 6 to show the over exposure and overly quiet mic problem. These were all shot with Android 10 .73

The first 2 pictures are over exposed in my opinion and the quality is just not there. Snapchst and 3rd party pics and videos used to be much better in Android 9 and I will upload some Android 9 pics in the future.

As for the video, ignore the color filter. I made it like that in Snapchat and can't take the color filter off. The point of the video is to show how quiet the mic is. I was paying music through the phone speakers at 90% volume. You can barely hear the song unless you watch the video and turn the volume all the way up.

Please let me know what you guys think about these issues. Anything will help. Hope these things get fixed soon. Best regards, Branden 🙂

https://us.v-cdn.net/6031231/uploads/698/PI1V4X7T2FUG.mp4

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Using 3rd party cameras through say Instagram , Snapchat, Facebook Messenger, etc. don't yield good result. They don't pass through the same tuning either (although I dont have an explanation as to why).

Would you be so kind as to try with the stock Asus camera app?

isaac_brody
Star II
CH_ASUS

Indoor under direct sunlight. Hand held, rested against the table. Focus on the right figurine's head.

HDR++ mode (processing wheel appeared) , all shots.

P-189

KTOLKZQJCMO5.jpg

P-191

WLHJ5PHXIG4K.jpg

Q (I accidentaly set the ratio to 1:1 for the Q shot, but as aspect ratios are just clean auto crops, it shouldnt have affected the result).

IKOQ7G0RN2SF.jpg


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Thanks, @CH_ASUS for doing these tests.
I'm noticing that the noise reduction is indeed less aggressive in 189/191 versus Q. In your last photos with the figures, I can see less noise reduction in the background including what looks like some chroma noise in 189, while Q has noise reduction that kills the chroma noise along with detail.
Additionally, the higher contrast in Q gives a perceptual sharpness bump but also looks like it reduces dynamic range and details. I'm wondering if the additional contrast is throwing out detail that is then smoothed over with the higher noise reduction.
One solution would be to add picture profiles to the settings that allow users to pick their poison. Some folks might like the higher contrast more aggressive noise reduction, while others might prefer a flatter profile with less noise reduction that captures a good base image that is then finished in Snapseed/Lightroom.
Out of curiosity, how is testing done to improve image quality?

off2fly115
Rising Star II
CH_ASUS

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/32793#Comment_32793

Using 3rd party cameras through say Instagram , Snapchat, Facebook Messenger, etc. don't yield good result. They don't pass through the same tuning either (although I dont have an explanation as to why).

Would you be so kind as to try with the stock Asus camera app?


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The 3rd party app camera experience was far superior in Android 9. I know 3rd party camera apps don't go under the same tuning the stock camera does but, I just can't help but notice the worsening quality after the latest Android 10 update. Even though the you and the camera team at Asus say you guys haven't changed any coding for the camera, I am sure something ELSE must've changed the camera quality. As for stock quality camera, the pics there are also overly exposed. I can try to post some example pictures later. I already have posted multiple pictures here on the thread somewhere so maybe you can look back at those?? I know you guys are hard working and I respect you all. But if these many people say the camera experience is this much different then there has to be something that is causing it. Not our hardware or software. Hopefully you guys can release an update soon fixing all of the latest bugs 🙂 - Best regards Branden.

mickey10021
Rising Star II
isaac.brody

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/33467#Comment_33467

Thanks, @CH_ASUS for doing these tests.

I'm noticing that the noise reduction is indeed less aggressive in 189/191 versus Q. In your last photos with the figures, I can see less noise reduction in the background including what looks like some chroma noise in 189, while Q has noise reduction that kills the chroma noise along with detail.

Additionally, the higher contrast in Q gives a perceptual sharpness bump but also looks like it reduces dynamic range and details. I'm wondering if the additional contrast is throwing out detail that is then smoothed over with the higher noise reduction.

One solution would be to add picture profiles to the settings that allow users to pick their poison. Some folks might like the higher contrast more aggressive noise reduction, while others might prefer a flatter profile with less noise reduction that captures a good base image that is then finished in Snapseed/Lightroom.

Out of curiosity, how is testing done to improve image quality?


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I seconded this. I would like to have the option to choose processing profile too.