11-30-2019 04:34 PM
12-12-2019 11:43 PM
isaac.brodyYes, HDR++ has changed.@CH_ASUS I did a 100 percent crop on these images you posted. 189 is on the left, Q on the right.
Compared side by side 189 is of course flatter, but it also retains a lot more detail in the shadows.
And In 189 you can also see detail in the bark of the tree and on the snow. Overall it looks like it's resolving fine detail and sharpness much better than Q.
The Q version has much higher contrast at the expense of dynamic range and details in the shadows. That lost detail and the noise reduction resolves a softer image, especially on the tree bark and the snow.
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12-13-2019 08:21 AM
CH_ASUSAre you guys fine tuning the HDR++ to improve detail in the shadows or dial back the contrast? While the highlight retention is good, you lose that advantage and dynamic range when the detail in the shadows is lost. And I don't mean for shooting at night. I use HDR++ during daytime and the loss of details in the darker areas of the frame has a negative impact on wide shots and anything with darker details.https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/33735#Comment_33735
Yes, HDR++ has changed.
But you can also see the sky in the background on Q - it preserved that better.
HDR++ generally focuses on preserving highlights more than shadows. And even more so in Q.
As far as I know, we've said from the start that Auto, NightMode havent changed (as all of this started with low light).
HDR++ has been changed. If you used HDR++ in the dark, results may differ now.
Auto has not changed. Auto mode does not use HDR++ in any circumstance (from what I am aware).
It will use the normal HDR if deemed necessary. As such HDR++ is strictly "opt-in" by the user.
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12-13-2019 09:12 AM
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12-19-2019 05:58 AM
isaac.brodyWe're having some discussion about it.. but as with anything camera - change one place - people complain (not the same people).https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/33973#Comment_33973
Are you guys fine tuning the HDR++ to improve detail in the shadows or dial back the contrast? While the highlight retention is good, you lose that advantage and dynamic range when the detail in the shadows is lost. And I don't mean for shooting at night. I use HDR++ during daytime and the loss of details in the darker areas of the frame has a negative impact on wide shots and anything with darker details.
Please let us know if this is on the radar to improve.
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doublem101We havent intentionally broken any GCAM mod functionality from what I am aware. It could be because of so many different reasons which are also outside of our control - it's not like our camera team knows exactly what needs to be done to get everything working on any particular gcam mod - nor should it be their priority to figure it out (which I hope you all understand as to why that is).I know this is a sensitive topic mas but since Asus sent some devices to developers i think theres no big issue talking about it.
Meanwhile what't the current situation about the possible update to fix some issues with 3rd part apps, like gcam?
Can we expect any update soon?
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