Speakers ROG6, after ROG5

[pesterevyasha]

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Model Name: ROG6
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Dear developers, I have upgraded my ROG5 to ROG6. I was very surprised by the sound of the speakers not for the better. DXO claims the second place of ROG6, which I categorically cannot agree with, having ROG5 and ROG6 in my hands.
Below I will provide a direct comparison. At the moment I want to say that ROG5 sounds like a real music center. You feel the sound from 20Hz to the highest kHz clearly. In ROG6 I hear 50% bass vs ROG5, dont a subbuffer. The midrange frequencies in the vocal area play loudly, its good. But, there is no sense of mass on the vocals. Further, the area beyond the midrange - the "area of detail" plays with hissing and strains the ear. And finally, the high frequencies - they are strangled, they are almost inaudible, there is no "brilliance".

Dear developers, make the sound on ROG6 as wonderful as ROG5. You have raised the bar very high for the sound of mobile speakers in ROG5. Be kind and continue to match!
Video Versus
Left ROG6 - Right ROG5

[FunBike31]

Uh, you're a little late and sorry to break your hope, but already I could see on the specifications that it would be worse than the Rog5 on the audio
After the release, with my Rog5 I went to the store where I have a friend who had the ROG6 and the Black Shark, we listened and compared about ten titles
Loudspeaker 1 BS5, 2 Rog5, very very far behind, Rog6
Wired Headset 1 Rog5, BS5 , Latest Rog6
The worst is that when it was released it was not good but not worse than most smartphones, the Dear Developers as you call them ruined the audio with the penultimate firmware then completely destroyed with the last one.
Here are 2 links that you should have read before switching to Rog6
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/62322/review-of-rog-6-so-far/p1
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/62573/speakers-will-always-suck-sorry-guys#latest

[waxy78611]

pesterevyasha

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/239370#Comment_239370

The only problem is the need for a good Dirac setup.

When I had Root on ROG5, I replaced the dirac_resource.dar system file from different ROG5 firmware (A11.88, A11.231) to have better sound on speakers and headphones.

This system file needs to be modified so that ROG6 sounds at the same level as ROG5.

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This is some interesting stuff which I wish I knew before. Didn't realize a simple file could change the sound quality, pretty awesome thing you did there.
Bht I can assure you, on a hardware level, unfortunately the Rog 6 speakers are a downgrade from the Rog 5

[waxy78611]

FunBike31

Uh, you're a little late and sorry to break your hope, but already I could see on the specifications that it would be worse than the Rog5 on the audio

After the release, with my Rog5 I went to the store where I have a friend who had the ROG6 and the Black Shark, we listened and compared about ten titles

Loudspeaker 1 BS5, 2 Rog5, very very far behind, Rog6

Wired Headset 1 Rog5, BS5 , Latest Rog6

The worst is that when it was released it was not good but not worse than most smartphones, the Dear Developers as you call them ruined the audio with the penultimate firmware then completely destroyed with the last one.

Here are 2 links that you should have read before switching to Rog6

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/62322/review-of-rog-6-so-far/p1

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/62573/speakers-will-always-suck-sorry-guys#latest

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Any idea which Rog 6 firmware has the best sound quality from speakers?

[pesterevyasha]

FunBike31

Uh, you're a little late and sorry to break your hope, but already I could see on the specifications that it would be worse than the Rog5 on the audio

After the release, with my Rog5 I went to the store where I have a friend who had the ROG6 and the Black Shark, we listened and compared about ten titles

Loudspeaker 1 BS5, 2 Rog5, very very far behind, Rog6

Wired Headset 1 Rog5, BS5 , Latest Rog6

The worst is that when it was released it was not good but not worse than most smartphones, the Dear Developers as you call them ruined the audio with the penultimate firmware then completely destroyed with the last one.

Here are 2 links that you should have read before switching to Rog6

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/62322/review-of-rog-6-so-far/p1

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/62573/speakers-will-always-suck-sorry-guys#latest

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Second link not true. 2 mono AMP Cirrus logic, not 1.
ROG5

ROG6

[Danishblunt]

@waxy78611
I did some digging and it seems the Rog5/Rog6 both use 2 amps, altho for whatever reason they don't show up as 2 like they would on the Rog3. Hence the confusion, however because the CS35L45 is a mono amp, it's impossible to drive 2 speakers with a single amp, that being said.
After looking at the specsheet I understand what ASUS is going for.
Here is the official product specs, the interesting part comes here:
6.8 W @ 1% THD+N into 8 Ω
Problem with that is, you need actual speakers that can sustain it, also you need cooling to sustain each amp as well. On the Rog6, the speakers themselves have been downgraded to the point where they simply cannot operate at the "same settings" as the rog5 (cracking, amp detecting overheating, disabling bass etc.), not to mention ASUS has degraded the speakers on the Rog5 afterwards for a reason. The rog5 has a noitorious problem where the solderballs will crack over time causing the well known issues (broken wifi, phone not turning on), this is related to the constant cooling down and heating up of the phone.
Esentially the solution OP has proposed, is, rooting your phone aka throwing away your warranty and revert to a configuration ASUS has downgraded because they didnt want mass dead phones on the DAC/Speaker level. Now if you want to play "poker" then root your phone and run with old config and see what happens. Personally, I would not recommend it, unless you plan on switching very soon anyways and don't mind potentially a paperweight afterwards.
ASUS essentiall got tired of this:
Now once again, feel free to break you phone if you want, you have been warned tho. Personally, i'd probably recommend waiting for another phone.