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Speakers ROG6, after ROG5

pesterevyasha
Rising Star I
Please tell us some basic information before asking for help:
Model Name: ROG6
Firmware Version:220
Rooted or not: not
Frequency of Occurrence: every time
APP Name & APP Version (If your issue relates to the app):
In addition to information above, please also provide as much details as you can, e.g., using scenario, what troubleshooting you've already done, screenshot, etc.
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Dear developers, I have upgraded my ROG5 to ROG6. I was very surprised by the sound of the speakers not for the better. DXO claims the second place of ROG6, which I categorically cannot agree with, having ROG5 and ROG6 in my hands.
Below I will provide a direct comparison. At the moment I want to say that ROG5 sounds like a real music center. You feel the sound from 20Hz to the highest kHz clearly. In ROG6 I hear 50% bass vs ROG5, dont a subbuffer. The midrange frequencies in the vocal area play loudly, its good. But, there is no sense of mass on the vocals. Further, the area beyond the midrange - the "area of detail" plays with hissing and strains the ear. And finally, the high frequencies - they are strangled, they are almost inaudible, there is no "brilliance".
screenshot-20221118-152900-browser-1-1.jpg
Dear developers, make the sound on ROG6 as wonderful as ROG5. You have raised the bar very high for the sound of mobile speakers in ROG5. Be kind and continue to match!
Video Versus
Left ROG6 - Right ROG5

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pesterevyasha
Rising Star I
Danishblunt

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/239459#Comment_239459

The Rog6 has downgraded speakers, they cannot handle the amps at full blast. If your AMP can output effectively 6watts, then having speakers that can only sustain 2 watts will be a bottleneck (example). On the Rog5 it seemed "stock" the amps where simply going overboard causing them to die, hence ASUS had to step in to degrade the sound in order to prevent them from dying as you saw with the topics mentioned above. The rog6 however had reported crackling and disabled bass in many instances which are very likely caused by the CS35L45's speaker protection, aka the speakers are at their limit. They have a certain hardware limitation on what they can do, and with that "budget" they need to "spend" it wisely. Bass being the most "expensive" of them all. The smartest would be to go for a v shape from a "music" perspective, however that would give ASUS quite some backlash as the midrange is by far the most important range for gamers, so they are sort of in a difficult position where they seem to have taken a "Rog2" / "Red Magic" approach where they seem to opt for a bright shape instead which certainly will make gamers more happy but will make music feel very tinny and boring for many.

If you're willing to mod your phone, you could get good sound out of the Rog5 and possibly the Rog6, this would require customized speakers and some cooling for the amps.


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I'm fine with the ROG6 speakers, I'm writing about software sound improvement, as it was in ROG5. Your messages relate only to defective phones and are not unrelated to the creation of my discussion

Danishblunt
Hall of Fame I
pesterevyasha

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/239515#Comment_239515

I'm fine with the ROG6 speakers, I'm writing about software sound improvement, as it was in ROG5. Your messages relate only to defective phones and are not unrelated to the creation of my discussion


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You didnt understand the post at all.

Danishblunt
Hall of Fame I
FunBike31

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/239386#Comment_239386

The rog5 has a noitorious problem where the solderballs will crack over time causing the well known issues (broken wifi, phone not turning on), this is related to the constant cooling down and heating up of the phone.

One of the first hypotheses I made, soldering problems, bad bath, excessive heat, I like it when I'm not completely off the mark 🙂

I will add that the location of these welds is located at the point of flexion, the habit of users fashion trouser pockets and the design of series 5 and 6 is incompatible


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This has not only something with heating and cooling down to do, but also the nature of the phone being easy to bend.

Mattias_ASUS
Moderator
Moderator
pesterevyasha

Please tell us some basic information before asking for help:

  1. Model Name: ROG6
  2. Firmware Version:220
  3. Rooted or not: not
  4. Frequency of Occurrence: every time
  5. APP Name & APP Version (If your issue relates to the app):

In addition to information above, please also provide as much details as you can, e.g., using scenario, what troubleshooting you've already done, screenshot, etc.

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Dear developers, I have upgraded my ROG5 to ROG6. I was very surprised by the sound of the speakers not for the better. DXO claims the second place of ROG6, which I categorically cannot agree with, having ROG5 and ROG6 in my hands.

Below I will provide a direct comparison. At the moment I want to say that ROG5 sounds like a real music center. You feel the sound from 20Hz to the highest kHz clearly. In ROG6 I hear 50% bass vs ROG5, dont a subbuffer. The midrange frequencies in the vocal area play loudly, its good. But, there is no sense of mass on the vocals. Further, the area beyond the midrange - the "area of detail" plays with hissing and strains the ear. And finally, the high frequencies - they are strangled, they are almost inaudible, there is no "brilliance".

screenshot-20221118-152900-browser-1-1.jpg

Dear developers, make the sound on ROG6 as wonderful as ROG5. You have raised the bar very high for the sound of mobile speakers in ROG5. Be kind and continue to match!

Video Versus

Left ROG6 - Right ROG5

https://us.v-cdn.net/6031231/uploads/KZY1C7GMCHUF/vid-20221130-003050-564.mp4

https://us.v-cdn.net/6031231/uploads/AV0YFGZGOICZ/vid-20221130-003106-873.mp4

https://us.v-cdn.net/6031231/uploads/ZFL67XBBCIM1/vid-20221130-003139-335.mp4

https://us.v-cdn.net/6031231/uploads/Q2GH434VHEEX/vid-20221130-003145-166.mp4


Speakers ROG6, after ROG5
Hi!
Thanks for the info, will be forwarding this to the right team 🙂

Lossani
Star II
Does anyone have a list with new features/bugs introduced in each update? To know which update version is the sweetspot to stay at?