Still have my Pixel 5 next to Zenfone 8. Pixel 5 received all patches Nov, Dec, Jan and yesterday Feb 2022.
Hopefully Asus will update it shortly...
Appart from this, very happy with my Zenfone 8. With battery saver in dev options, battery life is not far from Pixel 5. With light use, 2 days easy with not much data but wifi.
Camera wise, with Gcam, it's very close to P5. Sometimes a bit better, sometimes a bit worse. Stock cam has less details, and colors are less accurate. But definitively not bad ;)
Performance is too much for my need, S765G is already enough on Pixel 5 for my light use. But really like compact devices, and getting this Zenfone 8 at 499€ in 8/256Go was a no brainer for me.
Please Asus, push at least 1 security patch 1 month on 2...
Have switched to iPhone (sad and for the for the first time) a few weeks ago. So happy to use the speaker, volte and over all an amazing phone and not have to deal with this.
Pretty much the same experience as you (I also have an S10e besides the P5), minus the disappointment. Asus has been doing very well with updates until now, minus this mysterious A12 OTA delay. I trust they will do so in the future.
In fact, Google ruined the P5 for me with A12: vibrate-only mode hidden from bar (I would often forget the phone is in this mode), hidden alarm notification, and the new wifi quick toggle sealed the deal for me in favor of the Z8. I had already favored the latter for its limit to charging the battery (80-90%), a real phone speaker, an audio jack and a notification led, but now it's no competition really. (Too bad, I loved the P5 on A11.)
As for the S10e, it got the official A12 in December and an update in January. Samsung is not messing around.
@Blumi I'll paste the same comment I made in a different thread on the same subject, concerning Zenfone 8 A11:
We are currently keeping the Zenfone 8 Android 12 FOTA rollout on hold, after receiving reports of system issues encountered by some users. Our team is currently hard at work resolving these issues, and we plan to resume the FOTA process as soon as we have a more stable version ready for distribution.
Depending on how long this takes, we will roll out another A11 update with the latest Android security patch.
(If you run into any issues after upgrading your device to Android 12, please refer to the downgrade package that can be found on the support web page. Please make sure to backup any personal data before you start the downgrade process.)
What an absence of logic! Be quiet with your useless security patches!
Nobody needs security patches, if the phone spits this "system ui stop" bulshit couple of times a day. We need immediate fix for this system-crash-thing!
Some people still use windows xp and have no problems. Some people use android 4 and have no problems either. But does that mean they are doing the right thing? If the timeliness of updates doesn't matter that much, why do other manufacturers deliver them on time?
Depends. Some people don't care about security, don't care about their data and some do. What latest security patch means is that there are no known exploits like this:
"The most severe of these issues is a critical security vulnerability in the System component that could lead to remote escalation of privilege with no additional execution privileges needed. User interaction is not needed for exploitation". (source https://www.securityweek.com/androids-february-2022-security-update-patches-36-vulnerabilities)
There were 36 security issues patched in the February 2022 update alone. When you add December and Jan to that it is concerning. Especially if you care about keeping your data that you have on your phone private.
"remote escalation of privilege with no additional execution privileges needed. User interaction is not needed for exploitation" - real world impact would be that someone can take control of your phone without you needing to do anything. Spyware abusing this security flaw could get your passwords, bank details, turn your phone into a bot in a botnet etc. Would something like this be real enough for you?
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i hope, asus will roll out february security patch level ASAP to our ZF8
https://www.phonearena.com/news/android-12-security-flaw_id138364
Don't hold your breath
I was just thinking how disappointing it is to have November patch level :/
Coming from a Pixel phone, I am used to monthly updates and feature drops I guess
Same disappointment here.
Still have my Pixel 5 next to Zenfone 8. Pixel 5 received all patches Nov, Dec, Jan and yesterday Feb 2022.
Hopefully Asus will update it shortly...
Appart from this, very happy with my Zenfone 8. With battery saver in dev options, battery life is not far from Pixel 5. With light use, 2 days easy with not much data but wifi.
Camera wise, with Gcam, it's very close to P5. Sometimes a bit better, sometimes a bit worse. Stock cam has less details, and colors are less accurate. But definitively not bad ;)
Performance is too much for my need, S765G is already enough on Pixel 5 for my light use. But really like compact devices, and getting this Zenfone 8 at 499€ in 8/256Go was a no brainer for me.
Please Asus, push at least 1 security patch 1 month on 2...
Have switched to iPhone (sad and for the for the first time) a few weeks ago. So happy to use the speaker, volte and over all an amazing phone and not have to deal with this.
Pretty much the same experience as you (I also have an S10e besides the P5), minus the disappointment. Asus has been doing very well with updates until now, minus this mysterious A12 OTA delay. I trust they will do so in the future.
In fact, Google ruined the P5 for me with A12: vibrate-only mode hidden from bar (I would often forget the phone is in this mode), hidden alarm notification, and the new wifi quick toggle sealed the deal for me in favor of the Z8. I had already favored the latter for its limit to charging the battery (80-90%), a real phone speaker, an audio jack and a notification led, but now it's no competition really. (Too bad, I loved the P5 on A11.)
As for the S10e, it got the official A12 in December and an update in January. Samsung is not messing around.
Same here. I'm enjoying the better battery life with my Zenfone and android 12 works fine. I am just missing the security Patch.
Securite updates and Asus it is a joke. Much older Samsung S10 have fresher updates. No more Asus!
@Blumi I'll paste the same comment I made in a different thread on the same subject, concerning Zenfone 8 A11:
We are currently keeping the Zenfone 8 Android 12 FOTA rollout on hold, after receiving reports of system issues encountered by some users. Our team is currently hard at work resolving these issues, and we plan to resume the FOTA process as soon as we have a more stable version ready for distribution.
Depending on how long this takes, we will roll out another A11 update with the latest Android security patch.
For users that want to manually update their devices to Android 12, we provide a manual update file on the Zenfone 8 support web page: https://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/HelpDesk_BIOS/
(If you run into any issues after upgrading your device to Android 12, please refer to the downgrade package that can be found on the support web page. Please make sure to backup any personal data before you start the downgrade process.)
Phone security is more much more important than Bugs. Your android 12 have security from November. Shame.
What is the impact of a 3-months old security update on the security of your phone? Very, very close to zero probably.
What an absence of logic! Be quiet with your useless security patches!
Nobody needs security patches, if the phone spits this "system ui stop" bulshit couple of times a day. We need immediate fix for this system-crash-thing!
Some people still use windows xp and have no problems. Some people use android 4 and have no problems either. But does that mean they are doing the right thing? If the timeliness of updates doesn't matter that much, why do other manufacturers deliver them on time?
I do need a recent patch level due to work app policy. I mean, worst case for me is lineage but I expected a faster circle
yay.
no more system ui crash???
the battery life will be better??
Ppl think Android is Windows...
Depends. Some people don't care about security, don't care about their data and some do. What latest security patch means is that there are no known exploits like this:
"The most severe of these issues is a critical security vulnerability in the System component that could lead to remote escalation of privilege with no additional execution privileges needed. User interaction is not needed for exploitation". (source https://www.securityweek.com/androids-february-2022-security-update-patches-36-vulnerabilities)
There were 36 security issues patched in the February 2022 update alone. When you add December and Jan to that it is concerning. Especially if you care about keeping your data that you have on your phone private.
You are totally right but some people cannot understand your words. Don't waste your time.
I asked about real life impact. Try to quantify it some way if you want to answer my question.
(Sorry, I don't understand why the litany of quotations.)
Real world impact?
"remote escalation of privilege with no additional execution privileges needed. User interaction is not needed for exploitation" - real world impact would be that someone can take control of your phone without you needing to do anything. Spyware abusing this security flaw could get your passwords, bank details, turn your phone into a bot in a botnet etc. Would something like this be real enough for you?