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Before you think of upgrading to Rog5

Danishblunt
Hall of Fame I
Honestly there are so many weird topics here surrounding the Rog5 being superior and people acting like it's some next evolution.
Guys let me clear some things up for you:
The screen is the same.
the speaker are basicially the same,.
the batterilife is worse on the Rog5 due to higher TDP from the SoC.
The LED on the back, while on paper nice, is something you won't even look at.
No storage upgrade, still capped at 512GB.
Phone will throttle if used over time without aero cooler.
Camera the same.
Audio quality hasn't been improved noticably at all on headphones, for some reason people first now got the memo that the Rog Phones in general have a high quality built in dac.

Overall if you already have a Rog3, there is literally no compelling reason for you to purchase the Rog5, if you have an older Rog phone 1 then you can easily consider it, but upgrading from Rog3 is just silly, even Rog2 I'd still call it a stretch to call it an "upgrade". So please don't be swayed by random reviewers acting like it's some next evolutionary thing.
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Aryan202
Community Legend I
jin_akira

From an internal hardware perspective the improvement is not as exciting as the improvement from the ROG2 to the ROG3.;

- UFS 3.0 to UFS 3.1 (UFS 3.1 capped at 512gb)

- 12gb RAM to 16gb RAM

- Snapdragon 855+ to 865+ (was expecting the ROG 5 to use a Snapdragon 888+ variant)

- additional macro lens

Though not all internal hardware are fully utilised by the end user (like the 16gb RAM) but was kinda expecting a bit more 'wow' hardware wise. Visually it does look good with the new RGB and additional panel strip but i'm somewhat more appreciative of the subdued gamer look on the ROG 3. It just does not scream as much attention which blends well with my other devices (am not being biased, just a preference). Also strange that they changed the side port, rendering most of the previous gen accessories useless. Even the Kunai 3 needs a new bumper


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I don't think camera was an priority for them hence the exact same setup by the way there's an new wide angle omnivision sensor imo comapared to Rog 3 but rest two sensors are same
Algorithm wise maybe there are a few improvements
And they have so much stuff in there did they really have the space for an bigger sensor?even a telephoto requires much larger space or the new imx sensor
The design looks cool tho to be honest especially the white color
But I believe value for money wise Rog 5 base variant 8/128 offers the best value for 800€/50k inr
Pro and ultimate have their positives but it's mostly due to that secondary display some inbox accesories that'll you'll get and the ram and rom variants would've been good to refresh the camera maybe add ip rating, wireless charging and QHD display to the higher en variants? But I believe that's hoping too much from a gaming phone as so many ports so ip is unlikely and Asus prioritises the RGB logo over wireless (many reviewers mention this)
And 888 by itself heats up I don't think an oc'ed 888 is a good idea lol
But according to reviews Rog 5 thermals seems good the cpu is centred so you can't feel much heat on your fingers where you hold the phone and the fans can directly cool the cpu.
Plus I believe there are some thermal related improvements too we'll know more about teardowns by Jerry rig probably 🙂

Saifuddin
Zen Master III
Averan

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/156372#Comment_156372

I don't think camera was an priority for them hence the exact same setup by the way there's an new wide angle omnivision sensor imo comapared to Rog 3 but rest two sensors are same

Algorithm wise maybe there are a few improvements

And they have so much stuff in there did they really have the space for an bigger sensor?even a telephoto requires much larger space or the new imx sensor

The design looks cool tho to be honest especially the white color

But I believe value for money wise Rog 5 base variant 8/128 offers the best value for 800€/50k inr

Pro and ultimate have their positives but it's mostly due to that secondary display some inbox accesories that'll you'll get and the ram and rom variants would've been good to refresh the camera maybe add ip rating, wireless charging and QHD display to the higher en variants? But I believe that's hoping too much from a gaming phone as so many ports so ip is unlikely and Asus prioritises the RGB logo over wireless (many reviewers mention this)

And 888 by itself heats up I don't think an oc'ed 888 is a good idea lol

But according to reviews Rog 5 thermals seems good the cpu is centred so you can't feel much heat on your fingers where you hold the phone and the fans can directly cool the cpu.

Plus I believe there are some thermal related improvements too we'll know more about teardowns by Jerry rig probably 🙂


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Also no ip rating though😬😬
Edit- you mentioned it , i skipped to read that line by mistake , sorry

momeimada
Rising Star I
Danishblunt

Honestly there are so many weird topics here surrounding the Rog5 being superior and people acting like it's some next evolution.

Guys let me clear some things up for you:

The screen is the same.

the speaker are basicially the same,.

the batterilife is worse on the Rog5 due to higher TDP from the SoC.

The LED on the back, while on paper nice, is something you won't even look at.

No storage upgrade, still capped at 512GB.

Phone will throttle if used over time without aero cooler.

Camera the same.

Audio quality hasn't been improved noticably at all on headphones, for some reason people first now got the memo that the Rog Phones in general have a high quality built in dac.

Overall if you already have a Rog3, there is literally no compelling reason for you to purchase the Rog5, if you have an older Rog phone 1 then you can easily consider it, but upgrading from Rog3 is just silly, even Rog2 I'd still call it a stretch to call it an "upgrade". So please don't be swayed by random reviewers acting like it's some next evolutionary thing.


Before you think of upgrading to Rog5

better performance
better screen
better speaker
headphone jack
Not worth the upgrade if you have rog phone 3 because when it comes to gaming phones you want the best performance and right now we don't need that much performance, rog phone 2 can handle all games with no lag

Danishblunt
Hall of Fame I
Averan

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/156287#Comment_156287

~ Hey starting off I highly doubt that rog 3 has an samsung display if it did wouldn't Asus and other tech sites list it in their specsheet,the vendor of the display wasn't mentioned anywhere not even in the launch event. If it was really an samsung panel Asus would've advertised the name more like they did with Rog 5 yesterday and Zenfone 7 pro last year (that has an 90hz samsung panel)

Rog 5 has DC dimming too (same with Zenfone 7) which I believe is only found in samsung phones?

~ The speaker seems to have new amplifiers and about the loudness thing someone mentioned it an YouTube video I believe it was MeWhosTheBoss's review

~ I dunno but afaik phones traditionally have the integrated Snapdragon dacs ESS is actually an high end dac manufacturer (LG had the same dacs) and the fact that none of the other OEMs have an headphone jack let alone an high end one I think this is a positive then there's further optimisation for dac by dirac for different use cases imo

Plus doesn't rog 3 and mostly every 2020 phone that didn't have an headphone jack not support some headphones with the in box adaptor and you actually need to buy one with and dedicated dac

I think some audiophiles would prefer this whole audio thing

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Audiowizard is pretty much the same though

~ Nah it's actually 2 3000 mah batteries and considering by past phones with 65W battery and 4.5k mah battery I don't think there's any considerable degradation

65 W with 6k mah is a sweet combination (I mean some manufacturers are supposedly adding support beyond that like 120W etc) but iirc 30W adaptor is supported too so one can use that if you worry that much

Apart from that for overnight charging and all you have tons of battery care features like rog 3 scheduled charging,slow charging, battery limit so Asus has you covered here

~ Um I'd say that for those who use them it does matter and air triggers is like an gaming add on if you don't use it then okay if use it then great it just got better 🙂

~ Haptic is an essential thing for many though once you experience a good haptics phone it's hard to adjust to an inferior one,haptics while gaming, scrolling through the ui just adds up to the overall experience imo.Plus rog 5 did add certain optimised haptics to certain in game functions

~ Um not really the stuff armory crate and Asus in house software can do hardly any other can do

If you're rooted then things chnages but still the things you get on Asus stock (unrooted) is pretty good you don't have to mess yourself.But I believe many software features should make its way to the rog 3 soon maybe with its android 11 update


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Why are you even talking at this point?
It has a samsung display, the reason they didn't mention was probably because they thought it was obvious by now that almost all flagships that exist have samsung panels. I already asked two resellers which both confirmed that the rog3 panels are indeed samsung panels, this is also in line with the fact that the specs are the same with the Rog5 as well, same responsetime, touch sampling rate, Color coverage and brightness.
DC dimming is not only found on samsung phones, you clearly don't even know what DC dimming is, hell DC dimming was making the black crush on OP 8 phones much much worse. Not to mention Rog3 has DC dimming on by default. The rog 3 has a flicker Reduced certification which means obviously it supports DC dimming and has it on.
Speakers are pretty much the same as in the Rog3, as already mentioned on release the Rog3 was quieter than the Rog2 and some people got annoyed by it, I believe with patch .7x or .9x it speakers got louder and the bass won't be as out of control anymore.
They don't have a headphone jack because it's not really all that common anymore. Most people I know use wireless heaphones. Also personally I don't really care about the heaphone jack as the typeC to 3.5mm adapter makes my cable 10cm longer, that's it, other than that it makes literally no difference. And as I already explained which you completely ignore, while on paper ESS DAC is higher quality, even an audiophile won't be able to notice the difference between the ESS dac and the high quality one qualcom is using, that's the same dumb dicussion about 32bit vs 24bit DAC's, it's just dumb.
Nobody is talking about audiowizard, it's simply an audio processing software that has absolutely nothing to do with sound quality.
Yes there is considerable degradation, just because you're ignorant about electronics doesn't mean you can claim whatever you want. Even if the batteries are split, charging at 65Watts will warm both batteries and ruin them over time. Also yes, you can still slow charge, but if thats what you do anyways, having a 65W charging speed is pointless to begin with.
Air triggers have always and are unreliable, nobody is going to use them all the time unless they are extremely casual and don't care, meaning your argument about supposedly improved air triggers is again just bad.

Overall you have demonstrated extremely poor knowledge on hardware and should from now on simply avoid any discussions about it as all you do is talking nonsense. Just face the fact that you fell for the marketing and don't want to realize that the Rog5 is pretty much the Rog3 with a new snapdragon and slight changes.

Danishblunt
Hall of Fame I
momeimada

https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/45579/before-you-think-of-upgrading-to-rog5

better performance

better screen

better speaker

headphone jack

Not worth the upgrade if you have rog phone 3 because when it comes to gaming phones you want the best performance and right now we don't need that much performance, rog phone 2 can handle all games with no lag


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Currently worse performance due to terrible drivers on the adreno 660, perfecly shown on the lag fiesta on Genshin impact in particular.
Same screen, only difference this time around they have the pixelworks visial processor instead of the software solution, which still seems to cause black crush.
Speakers still the same.

Headphone jack you got right, that being said most won't even care all that much.